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    hi
    the quilt is 110" by 110" inches at the moment, ( may shrink during quilting,) have spent 3 hours safety pinning together on the wooden table top (removed from legs), which was laid on floor to stop quilt from slipping and sliding off.
    have worked out can fit 55inches under the harp of 201 treadle, quilt being gravity reduced , is there any reason have to start in the centre, other than that how quilting has always been done, ?
    can I go back and forth from one edge of quilt to centre ensuring smooth under needle, and then working from centre travelling to far edge from started?
    will be free motioning.
    many thanks for any replys?


    ps
    wonder if nasa has tried quilting in space, the quilt might float up there making the free motion easier.

    #2
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    My thoughts??

    110" square quilt?
    Hand pinned?
    Crawling around on the Floor for pinning?
    Being quilted on a Treadle?

    With complete sincerity, I bow down to you in total awe. That you did any one of the above (much less all of them) humbles me, enough to say, I am the last person in this forum that would venture to suggest how to quilt this, after you have done so much more than I would have ever attempted. I would have been calling on my long arm lady for this one.

    But I do like the idea of a gravity free quilting space. Maybe we can contact Nasa and borrow their zero gravity simulation room?

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      #3
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      There are very specific reasons why quilting on a domestic sewing machine is done from the center out. No matter how well you have basted your layers together on a quilt that big there is going to be some shifting between the top layer and the bottom layer due to drag and friction. If you start at the outside and work in you will end up with tucks and bows in the center of the quilt. If you start in the center and work out , you can shift and smooth the tucks to the outside free edges. Secondly as you quilt the layers together it will become stiff. You won't be able to stuff the stiff quilted parts through the tiny harp on your 201 treadle. However if you quilt the center first, you can leave the stiff quilted parts outside of your harp, and stuff the non quilted parts through the tiny harp.

      You are incredibly brave to quilt a 110" square quilt on a 201 treadle. Based on my experience I would never attempt this. Trying to stuff a 84" wide quilt though my 7" harp was a desperate exhausting struggle.

      Best of luck to you
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        #4
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        For the reasons stated above, it's important to always start quilting in the middle of the quilt & work to the sides & the top & bottom. Some quilt in quadrants. I have never attempted to quilt anything larger than a lap size quilt. Anything larger, I pay a LAer to do. I do not have a large enough floor space to even lay out that large of a quilt, let alone get it sandwiched to satisfaction.

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          #5
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          Originally posted by DeniseSm View Post

          You are incredibly brave to quilt a 110" square quilt on a 201 treadle. Based on my experience I would never attempt this. Trying to stuff a 84" wide quilt though my 7" harp was a desperate exhausting struggle.

          Best of luck to you
          The largest I ever quilted on my Babylock Espire (7" throat/harp) was 90" X 108". And I did stitch in the ditch from the center out on all the major seams. Then went back and free motioned quilted the blocks. Boy were my shoulders tired!
          Vonnie

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            #6
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            I think I would pin just at the top and let it shift down while you go. That is way to big for me to handle.
            🌺 Lorie

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              #7
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              Am blushing Caroline thank you, just thought that's how making a quilt sandwich was done, did say a few prayers while down there.
              sounds like a plan..

              thank you Denise, pleased asked, very informative . will start in centre for reasons mentioned.

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                #8
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                thank you

                the long armer is a fair distance away so at this moment not an option.

                sorry to hear you hurt doing your quilting. Vonnie

                seemed to have pushed the boundary's a little in size,
                it be fun to learn if can manage, treadle with feet, hands, quilt a pattern, slide quilt and balance on the ball seat at same time its a sewing journey.

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                  #9
                  Re: to join all 3 layers question

                  You are doing all the good things we all do when we begin. I watched a u tube video on sandwiching on a table and find that it is easier to do it with the sides going over the top. I can do 110 inches easily by laying my backing on the table and letting it hang evenly all around, then roll the batting onto the back and smooth it out. Last put the top on starting about 2 inches in from the back and smoothing it as I go. THen I begin pin basting from the center, smoothing as I go. I have not had to go back and repin since I started this method. My back is smooth when I'm finished.
                  You MUST quilt from the center or , like the previous post, you will have lots of bunches when you get to the middle if you start from the sides. Smooth as you go. I started FMQ with a 7 inch throat and yes, it wasn't real easy but was doable on a king size quilt. I did trade up to a 10 inch throat about a year later and of course, it is a lot easier.
                  As you get more experience FMQ , it won't seem like such a chore. Just remember, you must have support under your quilt or you will have drag. A huge table is ideal but there are ways to compensate...ie...ironing boards, shelves, chairs...anything that keepts that quilt level without pulling while you sew.
                  Walk in peace with the Lord by your side.
                  Terry

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                    #10
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                    "and balance on the ball seat at same time ",

                    LOL I want a youtube tutorial on that trick.

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                      #11
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                      Something else to consider is that as you quilt, particularly if it is a dense pattern, the actual quilting adds a lot of weight as well which creates even more drag to compensate for as you quilt. I've just cast a wary eye over my treadle and have shuddered at the very thought of managing a quilt with it but I'm sure many vintage enthusiasts do so "I dips me lid to you!" And yes, another vote here for contacting NASA!

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                        #12
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                        I have been pin basting for years. The only time problems have occurred in quilting (Not starting in the center) is when my roll of batting is getting low, and the batting is stretched. The stretched batting causes shiftiness. No matter how much I would pin it would cause the back to pucker under those circumstances. Other than a weird spot in batting, it doesn't matter. I do find when starting a large one like this, I tend to sample my free motion quilting in the center block first. If the wrestling is too much, or awkward for the design, I decide on a different pattern quickly! Good luck!
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                          #13
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                          Deeply impressed. Yes, you must quilt from center. I know this from my own trials! I tried once and ruined the quilt. The batting bunched! The fabric shifted. The backing was triangulated. Of course, I had pinned shoddily, so-yours may be more secure. After that, I started using spray baste. Now I use glue. I love glue, but it is not for everybody. But I still quilt from center.

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                            #14
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                            If you anchor your quilt you can start on the sides. This is from Harriet Hargrave a national teacher and author of many, many quilting books. That is the way I do it and never had a problem. There is an advantage to starting on the side and rolling toward the middle because when it is quilted it is more compressed and will be a smaller roll. I do SITD to anchor. Sometimes all, sometimes maybe 6 lines.

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