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    shirleyknot
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  • shirleyknot
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    I never STARTED using any of those rulers and crap. I don't have 97 different ANYthing. I do have good silk pins and good long pins. That's all I need. I've made a lot of quilts and clothes on the least amount of money possible, still doing it the old less costly way.

    Do what pleases you. I do.

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  • Alpha O
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  • Alpha O
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    Maybe we aren't in a depression, but I'm tired of getting this, getting that, buying extra stuff just because some "expert" thinks it's the way to go. Buying all the extras can cut into your fabric budget and I believe in KISS. I also don't like running all over town to purchase an item.
    Unlike most - I hate to shop.

    Then you have to organize for each different item for special use. I don't organize. I might do fabric by color, but that's as far as I go.
    Pins? toss them all in a dish of some kind and grab one when you want one. Cover it to keep cats out.

    I'll look and see if I can find any more of those short glass headed pins. Think I got them originally at Hancocks Fabric. They pin anything, including denim, lycra, knits, polycotton and cottons. They are also strong enough to reset some electronics. We use them for other things besides fabric.

    I'm cleaning out and finding all these "special" rulers you had to have to do certain things are annoying me. I'll never use them again.



    I have different hobbies. I don't have room for all of them, but all involve color. Quilting is only an expression, not a necessity.

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  • Hulamoon
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  • Hulamoon
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    We aren't in a depression anymore and products change with time. I'm trying to understand why your so upset about this. Everyone offered a solution for you. Pins aren't that expensive to try different brands.

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  • Alpha O
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  • Alpha O
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    The Iris were the old style - flat head.

    I don't have trouble with quilting fabrics for a quilt, I can use glue if I have to.

    It's garments! I really don't see why you are expected to have 50 million types of pins to make a shirt! I do a lot of color and fabric blocking on shirts, and have had NO trouble until I wanted to use the long quilting pins. I'll also use whatever fabric works for what I am doing as long as it can go in the wash.

    Our parents (or grandparents) did the job with what they had. You hoarded any kind of pin during the depression, and people still quilted with what they had. I like my tech stuff, but with everyone trying to tell you what to buy, what to wear, how to think, I've had it.

    My mother hoarded the needles for her Featherweight.

    I have used 2 batiks in quilts and had no problem sewing. I do what I want with the colors. If it's half cotton and half batiks, so be it.

    BTW - knits like ball point anything. But in a pinch I've sewn lycra skating dresses and dance costumes with an 80/12 regular needle. If you need the costume yesterday, you broke your last ball point needle - you do what you need to get done and not have the stuff fall apart.

    I have no clue what the shorter glass head pins are, but they were guaranteed not to melt if you ironed over them. I've had some for over 20 years. They go through everything.
    Alpha O
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    Last edited by Alpha O; November 6, 2016, 05:09 PM.

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  • seaturtle
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  • seaturtle
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    I really haven't thought that much about pins. Thanks for posting the articles.

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  • shirleyknot
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  • shirleyknot
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    There are also different QUALITIES of the different types of pins. Just like all cottons are not equal, all silk pins aren't either.

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  • surfergirl
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  • surfergirl
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    Not all batiks are equal. I teach Hawaiian quilting which is all by hand. I tell my students to take their sewing needle with them when they are buying a batik fabric. Open the fabric to one thickness, stand the needle up, point down on the fabric and gently press the eye of the needle down into the fabric. If it resists and is difficult to push through, don't buy it you will have trouble appliqueing and quilting, and don't use two batiks for your quilt top or you are in deep kim chee as we say in Hawaii.

    If you are having trouble when pinning or sewing , use mom's old diaper pin trick and run the point of pin across your scalp. This will slightly oil the tip on the pin and it will slide right through the fabric.

    I only use .5mm or fine pins with the white heads. Don't use the long pins with the yellow heads, it's like pushing a nail through the fabric. I don't use the clover pins because they are too sharp and they bend easy. Don't want bloody fingers. Hope this helps.

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  • Hulamoon
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    Originally posted by RiverMomm View Post
    There are different pins for different uses, just like there are different needles such as yellow ball for knits. For most garment sewing, silk pins (garment pins) which come with or without glass heads are much sharper than other pins such as basic glass head or flower head pins. It may feel the same when you prick your finger, but there really is a difference in sharpness. The reason for needing a sharper point is the weave or type of the fabric used. Most quilting fabrics are sort of loosely woven and made of cotton, which is pretty forgiving in terms of pins. But silks, batiks, satins, etc are much less forgiving and are more closely woven and need a pin that is super sharp that will go through easier as well and not snagging a thread and ruining the fabric. So if you don't want to fight with pushing your pins through batiks, then silk pins are the way to go.

    Knits need ball point pins and needles.

    This article may help a little: https://www.craftsy.com/blog/2015/09...f-sewing-pins/
    I was just going to post that! It's a great article.

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  • RiverMomm
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  • RiverMomm
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    There are different pins for different uses, just like there are different needles such as yellow ball for knits. For most garment sewing, silk pins (garment pins) which come with or without glass heads are much sharper than other pins such as basic glass head or flower head pins. It may feel the same when you prick your finger, but there really is a difference in sharpness. The reason for needing a sharper point is the weave or type of the fabric used. Most quilting fabrics are sort of loosely woven and made of cotton, which is pretty forgiving in terms of pins. But silks, batiks, satins, etc are much less forgiving and are more closely woven and need a pin that is super sharp that will go through easier as well and not snagging a thread and ruining the fabric. So if you don't want to fight with pushing your pins through batiks, then silk pins are the way to go.

    Knits need ball point pins and needles.

    This article may help a little: https://www.craftsy.com/blog/2015/09...f-sewing-pins/

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  • Alpha O
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  • Alpha O
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    Originally posted by Snip Snip View Post
    Maybe the silk pins in the can became coated with oxidation from the can, as it sat for a long time. Either the pins or the can may have been aluminum. I would think you could wipe them clean. But that would be a lot of trouble, especially if you are losing feeling in your fingers and have a hard time grasping the pins. I have that problem, too, even with the big clumsy dull pointed pins. And no way can I feel the thread, unless it is being pulled.
    There should be some recognition that people DO have the problem and not be so quick to recommend the standard product when it doesn't help us. That includes mfg and designers.
    Right now I'm torqued about a cat food can I can't pull the tab on. I have to use pliers!

    I gave the silk pins away. The person I gave them to said they might have been coated to prevent oxidation. She's had to clean some brands.
    It was that coating that came off.

    I do prefer glass headed pins that won't melt if you accidentally hit them with an iron. THIS IS FOR GARMENT SEWING!

    I'm working on another night gown for kid. Quite a few years worth and all have been different. Same pattern, different techniques.
    Alpha O
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    Last edited by Alpha O; November 6, 2016, 08:07 AM.

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  • Alpha O
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  • Alpha O
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    That's all great about silk pins, but no one has yet explained why the quilting pins don't work. They are certainly sharp enough if you stick yourself.

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  • Snip Snip
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  • Snip Snip
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    Maybe the silk pins in the can became coated with oxidation from the can, as it sat for a long time. Either the pins or the can may have been aluminum. I would think you could wipe them clean. But that would be a lot of trouble, especially if you are losing feeling in your fingers and have a hard time grasping the pins. I have that problem, too, even with the big clumsy dull pointed pins. And no way can I feel the thread, unless it is being pulled.

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  • JCY
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  • JCY
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    Learn something new every day. Never heard of silk pins. I use the quilting pins with the yellow balls on the end. They're easier to grasp. I haven't had any problems poking them through batiks.

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  • Alpha O
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  • Alpha O
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    These were Iris pins and I had bought them for heirloom sewing 20 years ago. Never used them until that dress.

    Now I don't really want them. I have lost some feeling in fingertips and glass head pins are easier to grab.

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  • BethB
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  • BethB
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    I bought some "silk" pins from M*QC a couple of years ago. I have used them for everything and they have never left a mark. At this time, there are a lot of them holding up the hems of three flower girl dresses (white satin) and a junior bridesmaid dress (burgundy satin) - not a mark on them. Love, love these pins. I believe they were from Clover.

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