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  • Bee happy
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    I also struggle with RA. I haven't heard of the Forks over Knives cook book but would like to give it a try due to your sisters recomendation. When I was diagnosed I was put on steroids for months also a chemo medication. I have stopped all of that but there have been lingering effects. Thanks for sharing the info. Gretchen

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  • chaitea4me
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    Do you like Indian food? I eat mostly vegan these days. I really like vegetarian curry. You can do your own thing adding veggies. I add onions, potato, cauliflower, peas. I put it on rice usually. It freezes down well. Just look up the recipe on line and you can make it as spicy as you like. Personally I don’t like it spicy. It has coconut milk and yogurt in it and you can always cool it down with more sour cream. Good luck.

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  • SuzanneOrleansOntario
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    I am following, as we want to eat healthier. DH has so many food allergies, and many fruits and some veggies. A few in our family are strict vegan, so really difficult to follow when preparing family meals. Others will go non-vegan for holidays, but watch what they eat. Then I have a few who are gluten-free, nut free, non-dairy, nut free, and other allergies, it makes it difficult to make family meals, so I have been cutting back. Other than soups which I do quite well vegan, I'm at a loss. Thank God, they all drink wine.

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  • Sylvia H
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    As Preeti mentioned, I am experimenting with many new recipes. About two years ago, I started a regime of eating vegetarian at least 3 days of the week. The other days, I allowed one meal that included a meat. I did not follow this religiously, but it was a good transition to a more meatless diet. Recently, I have been looking into what is called 'whole food, plant based', which is even a step past vegan, as no processed food is used (such as vegan cheese). Again, I will be starting this as a part of my diet. I came across this website that provided 4 weeks of free menus, and it might be helpful to you. It is also budget friendly. The one thing this menu list does not include are many salads. That is something I would add to some of the meals. I know you are looking for cookbooks, but if you take a look at some of these meal plans, you will get some good ideas that you can incorporate into your diet.

    http://plantbasedonabudget.com/free-meal-plans/

    There is also another website that provided a weekly meal plan, and very detailed instructions - shopping list, precooking (batching) instructions. But it does cost $20/month. They do provide a free week menu, which you might like to download to your computer. There is also a blog that has many free recipes. This site is called "Clean Food, Dirty Girl". There is language that is offensive to some people, so you would have to decide if you can accept/overlook that, or not.

    As I transition to a different way of eating, I really like having a menu provided, so I don't have to spend hours pouring over recipes. I don't mind eating the same thing for 2 or even 3 meals. But I don't want to eat the same thing week after week. If I can help in any other way, please let me know.

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  • TMP
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    My two cents. I think you should talk to your doctor and do what he says. We are all different. I wouldn't want you to make changes that caused you to have other problems.

    After mom had open heart surgery her doctor gave her a list of foods that he approved. He had her cut out all meats except for fish and ever so often chicken. She had great success for years . Then for some reason she became so anemic that she started having nose bleeds and other problems . Her doctor at the time told her to eat meat in moderation. This was back in the late 1980's. We have so many more healthy food choices now and so much more is known about good nutrition.

    Good luck to you and please speak with your doctor.
    Last edited by TMP; December 1st, 2017, 10:43 AM.

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  • Preeti
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    I grew up in a vegetarian household. No meat was allowed in the house. Vegetables, beans, lentils, roots and nuts offer so many healthy and flavorful choices. I ate chicken only a couple of times a year - when we were at a lavish wedding or a fancy party. My mom and sister are still vegetarians.

    I love vegetables and love cooking with them. I have a recipe for a sweet potato black bean chilli - so flavorful that you don't even realize it is vegan. Mostly, I cook with instinct - no recipes.
    Sylvia has been experimenting with lots of new recipes including lentils. She'd be happy to guide you too.
    I understand that for someone who grew up in a typical American (meat heavy) household, the change may be difficult but it is worth the effort.

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  • Peggi
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    I think it is ignorant for doctors to tell all their patients with high cholesterol the exact same thing. We all have different genetic makeups, and what works for one person doesn't always work for their neighbor.

    Case in point:

    I have an acquaintance who was diagnosed 25 years ago with high cholesterol, over 300. Her doctor put her on the typical high-cholesterol diet - no red meat, no eggs, etc. She was also put on statins. Her numbers went down a little, but not much. They adjusted her meds for a while, but she was never able to get down below 260 or so. She eventually gave up and figured this was just the way it was going to be, medication for the rest of her life.
    Fast forward 25 years, she developed a rash on her hands and arms. Went to doctor after doctor after doctor, trying to figure out what was causing it. Each doctor treated it with pills, creams and/or salves but never addressed what was actually causing it. She got fed up with traditional doctors, quit taking her medications (the lotions and statins), and made an appointment to see a naturopath. The naturopath ran a few tests and told her that she SHOULD be eating lean red meats, eggs, clarified butter (ghee), and many other things her doctors had told her not to eat. In addition, she should NOT be eating potatoes, tomatoes, breads or pastas, corn, but rice was ok. Within weeks her rashes had disappeared, she lost 25 pounds, and her cholesterol went down to 210!!

    Some people are allergic to peanuts. Others cannot tolerate dairy. Certain perfumes smell wonderful on my friend, but awful on me. Why do doctors think that there is one broad answer for everyone with the same condition? We are all different and I think it's wise to consult with a nutritionist. Might not hurt to experiment for yourself with your diet and see what works best for you.

    p.s. Instead of cutting out all red meat, try grass-fed. My husband and son went hunting and brought home bison meat. It's much leaner than beef, is free-range and grass fed, and absolutely delicious. If you have to source grass-fed beef locally, be aware that a lot of farmers/ranchers will raise their herd as grass-fed, but right before processing the beef, they will fatten the herd on grain for a couple of weeks. Do your research and make sure you get true grass-fed beef.
    Last edited by Peggi; November 21st, 2017, 12:01 AM.

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  • JCY
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    My massage therapist has been a vegetarian for many years. Not sure if she's vegan. She's doing just fine & her blood levels all are good. I eat 7 eggs a week--one every morning for breakfast. DH has 2 scrambled eggs every a.m. IMO, eggs are not the bugaboo they were made out to be some years ago. They are a good source of protein. I buy Egglands eggs; the chickens are fed a vegetarian diet. I used to get eggs from someone who raised their own chickens. But I quit getting theirs when I learned the chickens were fed table scraps, which included meat.

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  • Hulamoon
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    I'm going to disagree on the beef or pork or any other mammal. I was at a soccer match and there was a dish someone made of all meats. When I said I don't eat that she said how do you stay alive? I was insulted. There are plenty of non animal proteins.

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  • grammaterry
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    unless you are have scilliac disease (I don't know how to spell it) then Do not go gluten free. If you are a blood type O, do not give up meat. Your brain needs fats and proteins to grow and thrive. Try all things in moderation. Fish, pork, good beef, good poultry and eggs. I heard on one of those health programs that women should have 6 or more eggs per week...natures perfect food. I agree that process foods should be eliminated and definitely read the label for high fructose corn syrup (a real no no).

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  • Carolnnc
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    I have familial hyercholesterolemia which causes extremely high cholesterol. I was doing okay until my Gyno doctor retired. I went in for a check up last November and the new male doctor told me he wouldn't give me a prescription for my hormone replacement therapy. Once I went off hormones & my cholesterol shot up over 300. I take a really low dose of statin to keep my doctor happy & with the hormones my cholesterol was acceptable. I went in for my physical and when she saw my test results she freaked out. She sent me to a Gyno who gave me back my hormones. I have a blood draw this Wed. & I'm hoping my cholesterol has dropped back down. I am hoping by adjusting my diet that I can get the levels lower. Thanks to all for taking the time to comment and give me lots to think about.

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  • redcaboose1717
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    Anita ( Starlover) I haven't eaten margarine in years. Our Chiropractor has meetings in his office about what is best for your body etc. I only eat butter....I don't use anything but coconut oil and olive oil for cooking certain things....but a bottle of olive oil will last a long time in my house! I don't eat any type of salad dressings either....only just a small amount of vinegar or lemon juice on my salads.
    I don't eat red meat except on occasion I will have a small steak, although it's been about 18 months since I have even done that.
    We eat mainly veggies and salads, and chicken ( broiled or baked never fried ) I love Broccoli, Califlower, carrots, beets, etc. My mom loved the fact that as a kid I loved all the veggies that most kids won't touch. ( Actually my younger sis only eats Peas & Corn for veggies, loves ham, pork chops, steak, and pasta, and she has a lot of health issues and is grossly over-weight. She always raves about the food I put on our table and asks for recipes, although I doubt very much that she cooks that way at home. Her two daughters are also over weight and eat pretty much like their mom does.

    I am always willing to try certain things. My DH Terry was diagnosed as a type II diabetic in 1990...and he kept his diabetes in check by eating right....that man never cheated on his diet. I think the reason why he did so well is that he gradually went into the diet...it took us 4-5 weeks to do, but after that time, he said "Don't give me anything that isn't on that diet...no matter what I ask for! " I stuck to the diet...and I cooked our family meals according to the what Registered Dietitian told us to do.She had some awesome recipes that she gave us. I did add a few extra things for the kids at first, but as the kids got older they just ate what we ate. ( I took a class with Terry when he was diagnosed) from 1990 until his death in 2002, his primary doctor was completely amazed at the fact that he was never put on meds...that he did this all with diet alone!
    My advice to anyone that is going on a life changing diet due to a new health issue is to do what my DH Terry did...don't jump right into a new diet.....do it gradually....Keep a calendar on what you are doing, and reward yourself ( Terry wanted his reward to be something about his model trains.....each week he would purchase something he wanted for his model train obsession....(he belonged to the local model train club here in Jackson)
    I have continued to cook just as I did when Terry was alive. I had gotten used to the diabetic diet....in fact I was diagnosed as a gestational diabetic when I was pregnant for my son who was born in 1986. When he was born, the condition went away, and I was told that within 5 yrs, the diabetes would return.....and that wasn't true ! My diabetic condition didn't return until 2014....28 yrs later. I was put on meds for awhile.....and then was taken back off due to the fact that I was controlling it with the diet...(I think I was on the meds for 6-8 months, I would have to look at my records to be sure)
    I have friends that turn their noses up at my way of eating.....but I don't have high Cholesterol or a lot of other medical issues......and my BP issues are the result of being in a lot of pain....and I do take meds for that. ( my doctor was amazed at the diet I use, which convinced him that the BP issues were due to the pain issues I endure. Of course, a lot of people wouldn't probably stay on the type of diet I am on....there's days where my vomiting issues run rampant, and I switch to a clear liquid diet. ( I have drank so much water and iced tea, it's ridiculous) I do believe that my mom had many years of good health due to her never drinking a lot of soda pop...she drank iced tea by the gallons every day! I started doing the iced tea thing ( giving up all pop when I was PG with my last child, son, Jordan in 1986.)

    My guilty pleasure is an occasional serving of that Pink Cloud Dessert I just listed on the forum in the thread about Turkey Day traditions. When I make it, I will have a small dish of it, and send the rest to a neighbors or my DD who lives about 2 blocks from me.
    I hope all these awesome suggestions help you !

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  • Star lover
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    Wow, mmmmm, when my DH was diagnosed with diabetes we went in an entirely different direction........ so I'm the odd ball.
    We eat meat...any kind and tons of fruit and veggies. BUT, what we did differently was all our meat is free range, grass fed. Fruit, eggless are organic. We completely eliminated all vegetable oils (safflower, corn, etc), potatoes, corn and anything refined or processed. We also have really restricted sugar, no refined sugar. Honey, real maple syrup and then only small amounts and rarely. After 2 weeks of not eating sugar (gosh I went nuts thinking about it though).... I don't even miss it or think about it now.

    As for oil. I only use olive oil, butter (or ghee), coconut oil and .....waiting for it.....lard! Yeah I know....but it's grass fed and I don't use it often. Butter is from grass fed cows.

    I use coconut oil mostly for making our "candy." Well I call it candy...cause it's sooooo good. Only has flaked coconut, coconut oil, almond butter and after prepared, dipped in dark chocolate...and if I'm feeling generous, a dash of flaked salt......oh my gosh....to die for!

    Following a kinda pseudo paleo diet, my DH no longer has diabetes and we have lost tons of weight, have high energy and feel better than we had in the past 10 years!

    That's us, it works for us. If I had to go vegan.....I would curl up and almost die. No bacon! That would be just be sad....so very sad....

    We've even eating this way for about 3 years now. Still feel great, weight is fantastic and we eat so much variety that earing is fun!

    Just throwing this out there......not trying to push my way onto anyone.....

    Hope you figure out what works for you and you feel better soon!
    Last edited by Star lover; November 20th, 2017, 04:42 AM.

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  • Murphy224
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    I agree with others to limit red meats and processed foods such as sausage, bacon, etc. Lean pork these days is almost like chicken. But I would caution you to be careful and get enough protein. As we age, we lose muscle and that can be one of the reasons for falls among the elderly. My short story is that I stopped eating meats and became almost a vegan, I got so weak, that I could not put on my clothes without leaning against something, fell numerous times, and generally lost all muscle (not just tone but actual muscle)and strength. Changed my diet to include more protein rich foods, starting strength training with a trainer, improved my overall health and my cholesterol is right where it needs to be.
    Excellent idea to check with your doctor before making any extreme changes.

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  • Hulamoon
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    Originally posted by baskets4deb View Post
    I love lentils and they are cheap. I use them as a substitute for ground beef in sloppy joes, tacos, and chili.
    I love lentils too! I was just looking up some recipes this morning!

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