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    Its definitely a girl

    So, its official. After 32 years of having Sammy Jo...aka Samatha Josephine or Samuel Joseph as our adoptive Mc Caw family member...we now know that she is a girl. At Christmas, we gave her a big box that a mattress topper arrived in and she has been nesting for nearly a month in it tearing up Christmas wrapping and cardboard. We have taped it and replaced cardboard sides and she continued to chew and voila...today she dropped an egg....this is not a good thing. We were letting her play because she was being quiet and we were enjoying not having to take care and entertain her...but it turns out...she laid the egg and I looked it up...without a mate, this is dangerous and she could develop all kind of bad things from osteosporosis to egg binding. I removed the nesting box tonight and took it away and the poor thing has searched everywhere for it. I hope by tomorrow she forgets and we just go back to being normal birdbrain parents.
    Walk in peace with the Lord by your side.
    Terry

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    Wow, that is incredible. I guess I don't know much about this bird.

    Enjoy life and do what makes you happy. Everything else will follow.

    Every day I try to do one thing that challenges my comfort zone.

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      I had a parakeet that did that and just kept on laying eggs. I gave her back to the people I bought her from and told them to breed her. I don't know what happened after that. I hope that made her happy. She had 15 before I took her back and was afraid she would get weak and sick.

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        I know this isn't quite the same thing, but in Rhode Island they have a huge problem with overpopulation of swans. They're aggressive to smaller birds and they compete with the smaller birds for food. To manage the problem, the Dept. of Environmental Mgmt. goes into the nest, removes the eggs, basically shakes them to destroy the embryo and then return the egg to the nest. Maybe you could replace her egg with a similar size fake egg so she wouldn't be so upset.
        Michele

        to the world you may be one person, but to one person you may be the world...

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          sammy's egg.jpghere is a picture of the egg.
          I read all I could last night and it said I should not encourage her by leaving the egg with her. So everything was removed and this morning she is back to normal.
          Walk in peace with the Lord by your side.
          Terry

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            Originally posted by chelea View Post
            ...the Dept. of Environmental Mgmt. goes into the nest, removes the eggs, basically shakes them to destroy the embryo and then return the egg to the nest.
            Jobs your high school guidance counselor never told you about. Professional Swan Egg Shaker.
            Loosely based on a true story.

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              I lost my cockatiel to complication of egg binding. I tried everything to get her out of the mind set. Part of my problem was the caging, her cage door was only closed at night time and during the day she would come/go as she pleased when I was home. She wanted to be where the action was. Like a little puppy following me around. Sit on your shoulders especially if you snacking on food. Found out she was actually doing the nesting thing under furniture, fooled me on our peek a boo game.

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                WOW! Yes to discouraging her!

                Our cockatiel started laying eggs and what a painful thing that became. She would flop and scream. Literally I thought she was going to die.

                I had to darken her room and change cage types before she stopped.

                In her flopping she broke her wing getting it caught in her cage wire.

                We bought her as a male.....yeah not male.

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                  This is so interesting! I know nothing about birds. Have you spoke with a vet? Maybe they might have some ideas on things you could do to help her.

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                    Originally posted by HandsomeRyan View Post
                    Jobs your high school guidance counselor never told you about. Professional Swan Egg Shaker.
                    This made me lol!

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                      This is really interesting. I don't know much about birds so this is all new to me. Terry, I'm glad Sammy is back to normal today!

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                        Wow! I knew macaws lived a long time, I guess I didn’t know how long. Poor thing, sounds like her biological clock is giving her trouble.
                        Pam

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                          Poor baby, Terry. Glad she's her old self again.
                          Michele

                          to the world you may be one person, but to one person you may be the world...

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                            Oh, Terry ~ The things we learn about on the Forum! Very interesting about your bird.

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                              Our Sammy is 32 yrs old and could live to be 100 ( a human life span) We have had her since she was a little less than a year old. She talks a little...not like an African grey...but very clear in the things she does say. She can count to 5, tell me I'm a pretty pretty bird, knows the difference between bye bye and hi, how are you and tells us night night every night. She says uh oh when I drop something and calls DH by his name and calls me Grammma. She cannot say S's or J's so she calls herself Ammy Yo.
                              I took her to a vet when she fell when she was about 2 and broke her bottom beek. The vet was 100 miles from me and didn't really know much about big parrots. That was a vet bill I resented.
                              I learned lots about birds by subscribing to a magazine called Bird Talk. This was like a forum for bird owners before the internet. lol. We always thought the only way we would know her sex was to have her blood tested. Who would have thought we'd find out this way after all these years.
                              I have read much about this nesting on the internet in the last few days and I think we're going to be okay. She is really tired and grouchy today and seems hungrier than usual. FYI...they are very messy and waste more food than they actually eat. She eats the same things we eat plus some dry food as a supplement...no seeds except as a treat very seldom. Sunflower seeds make her very aggressive and she won't eat food that's good for her when she has them. She gets one almond at bedtime as a reward for going in her room by herself. (Her room is her cage)
                              She's a nice animal but I surely wouldn't recommend that anyone get one. Very dirty, very demanding, have to be fed and watered at least twice aday and the clean up around her cage is constant. We let her out of her cage whenever we are in the house, but if we don't watch her closely she tears stuff up...especially wooden stuff life cabinets, furniture, chairs. She is potty trained in that she knows she needs to go to her room to poop...not on us or on the furniture.
                              Hope this explains why you need a more traditional pet.
                              Walk in peace with the Lord by your side.
                              Terry

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