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Divine Daisy
June 30th, 2014, 06:39 PM
Thought I would share this from face book, it's long but worth reading

Checking out at the supermarket recently ,the young cashier suggested I should bring in my own bags because plastic ones weren't good for the environment . I apologised and explained that we didn't have the green thing in our day . The cashier responded "that's our problem today , your generation did not care enough to save our environment for future generation!"
She was right about 1 thing we didn't have the green thing in our day,so what did we have ?
After some reflection and Soul searching on our day ,here's what I remembered .
Back then we returned milk bottles , fizzy pop and beer bottles to the store and the store returned them to the plant ,where the bottles were washed sterilised and refilled , so the same bottles were being reused repeatedly so they were recycled . But we didn't have the green thing !

We walked upstairs ,because we didn't have escalators and lifts in every store or office buildings,we walked to the shops and didn't climb into a 300 horse powered machine ,every time we wanted to go two streets away. She was right we didn't have the green thing in our day !

Back then we washed the babies nappies ,we didn't have the throw away kind . We dried our clothes on a line ,not on a energy gobbling machine burning 240 volts ......wind and solar power really did dry our clothes !
Kids got hand me downs from their brothers or sisters and not brand new clothing every time. But she was right we didn't have the green thing in our day .

Back then we had 1 tv or radio in the house , not a tv in every room ,and the tv had a small screen the size of a handkerchief not a screen the size of Wales !
In the kitchen we blended or stirred by hand , we didn't have electric machines doing everything for us.
When we packed a parcel for posting it was wrapped in old newspapers , to protect them ,not styrofoam or bubble wrap .
Back then we didn't fire up an engine and burn petrol just to cut the grass , we used a push mower that ran on human power,we exercised by working so we didn't need to go to the gym or health club to go on a treadmill run on electric ,but she's right we didn't have the green thing.
Back then we drunk from a fountain when we were thirsty ,instead of using a plastic cup or bottle every time we needed a drink. We refilled writing pens with ink instead of buying new ones , and we replaced blades of a razor instead of throwing away when they went blunt, but we didn't have the green thing back then.
Back then people took buses and kids took their bikes to school or walked instead of mum being a 24 hr taxi service.
We had only 1 electrical outlet in each room not an entire bank of sockets to power a dozen appliances, and we didn't need a computerised gadget to receive a signal beamed from satellite 2,000 miles away in space in order to find the nearest pizza joint.

But isn't it sad that the current generation laments how wasteful we older folk were just because we didn't do the green thing !!

WendyI
June 30th, 2014, 06:43 PM
I've seen this and it is so true. We NEVER threw stuff away back when I was a kid...you fixed it! Now, almost nothing is fixable! Look at the scissors I just posted about...they'd rather give me a brand new pair than fix the ones I have. Sad commentary there that's for sure!

bhaggerty
June 30th, 2014, 06:46 PM
I agree with you 100% !!!!!!!!!

Sandy Navas
June 30th, 2014, 06:48 PM
Can I hear an AMEN?

Hulamoon
June 30th, 2014, 06:57 PM
Blaming the generation before you is so not fair. I taught my kids to recycle and they do at their own homes now. We have banned plastic because of the ocean life hurting the animals. We have so many tourists come here and who can say what generation is tossing out trash? You go to areas where there are piles of beer bottles and cans from parties. I don't think sixty year olds are doing that.

Miss Sheri
June 30th, 2014, 07:06 PM
Amen, and amen!

Kgrammiecaz
June 30th, 2014, 07:19 PM
AMEN from me as well

quiltsRfun
June 30th, 2014, 07:51 PM
Add to that the fact that we didn't have plastic bags, they were the brown paper. And those were recycled for many things, including making covers for our school books.

Monique
June 30th, 2014, 08:19 PM
AMEN to that.

AuntieVic
June 30th, 2014, 08:27 PM
Amen from me also,

stationarymom
July 1st, 2014, 03:02 AM
Kids today can't see their own waste,they just repeat what some other socially conscious person has told them. I think you should print and go hand deliver you thoughts to this young clerk that seems to know so much about what our generation did.Our generation also never would have spoken like that to a customer with out losing their job.

Leah53
July 1st, 2014, 03:19 AM
That's what they're being taught in govt schools, the New World Order agenda, it would be nice if they taught them the basics like the 3 R's then some of these kids might be able to count change without using a calculator.

Texas Jean
July 1st, 2014, 04:03 AM
When is the last time anyone has seen a small appliance/TV repair shop? Nowadays if it breaks you throw it away and go buy a new one.

Iris Girl
July 1st, 2014, 05:20 AM
100% AGREE!!!!

HandsomeRyan
July 1st, 2014, 07:30 AM
What about leaded gasoline, DDT, chlordane, asbestos, arsenic, and lead based paint? *ducks and runs*

Suzette
July 1st, 2014, 08:04 AM
Oh yeah, a huge AMEN from me too!

Familyjournals
July 1st, 2014, 08:34 AM
My little grandmother was the daughter of pioneers who used to say “Fix it up, wear it out, make it do, or do without.” ...she was a master quilter.
My grandmother was born in 1890 and was the true embodiment of a pioneer woman. She used every scrap she could find for her carefully stitched giant star quilts. Her pieces came from an Easter dress, grandpa’s useable parts of his overalls or white shirts, satin from a wedding dress, anything she could salvage became parts of her stars. The backs of her quilts were sheets and the batting was usually an old quilt that has lost it’s usefulness. As quilters, we are probably the most " green" of any group of people. See what masterpieces we can do with little pieces of fabric.

MRoy
July 1st, 2014, 08:52 AM
Ryan, we know now that those things are dangerous, but hindsight has 20/20 vision doesn't it. The prior generations also created vaccines that practically wiped out polio, diptheria, and whooping cough. There's good and bad in every generation.

What about leaded gasoline, DDT, chlordane, asbestos, arsenic, and lead based paint? *ducks and runs*

Familyjournals
July 1st, 2014, 09:35 AM
Ryan, we know now that those things are dangerous, but hindsight has 20/20 vision doesn't it. The prior generations also created vaccines that practically wiped out polio, diptheria, and whooping cough. There's good and bad in every generation.

You are so right Myrna! There are things we are using today that the following generations will fault us for and we had no idea they would be bad for us. Back then we didn't know our paint, the ceilings in our homes or what we used to kill weeks could harm anyone. The paint on the toys my children cut their teeth on would scare me to death now. However, we made our own fun. Our days were spent building club houses, eating at one of friends houses for lunch, popping pop corn for a snack, picking asparagus from the banks if the ditch, playing red rover, button button, and night games until our mother called us in by switching on the porch light. We knew every neighbor and the layout of every home. We shared a party line on our home phones and the big event was when the ice cream truck's music would come drifting down our street. Each family usually only had one car. So we walked, rode our bikes or roller skated to wherever we needed to go. We had the green thing down before green was a thing.

Leah53
July 1st, 2014, 11:02 AM
What about leaded gasoline, DDT, chlordane, asbestos, arsenic, and lead based paint? *ducks and runs*

There's no denying that or excusing it but what about today, our food supply is toxic, gmo's, no one knows how to grow their own food anymore, it's a dying art as well as the govt telling us we can't have gardens in our front yards. Our food and drug supply is what is causing autism and things like ADHD, mostly unheard of in my generation, at least they have tried to rectify the crap you mentioned but there will be no rectifying todays food supply. "Those who control the food, control the people". In my day we drank milk straight from the cow that we, ourselves, grew and fed and milked ourselves, nowadays it's against the law to drink straight cows milk, know why, because they know that the stuff they put in the grain is toxic, it wasn't back then.

In my day you could let your children out to play and even wander off to the neighbors by themselves or get on our bikes and ride like the wind, we even went to the local swimming hole alone and guess what, no one kidnapped us. We can't let our kids leave the yard anymore and even then we have to watch them carefully.

We didn't have porn on TV or in our music. We didn't know what sex and drugs were at 8, 10 and 12 years old we were still innocent because this crap wasn't thrown in our faces constantly.

Back in my day we didn't have welfare, we had community charity and Churches, we didn't pay people to sit on their butts and let others provide for them, we took responsibility for ourselves, you want to eat then work for it.

"Make-do's" were the order of the day, if it was broke we made something else out of it, if we needed something that we didn't have we improvised.

I needed a skirt for square dancing in the 7th grade, my grandmother took a dress, made me a skirt and after square dancing was over she made me a dress out of it. In hindsight, I don't know where she found the dress in the first place, it was pretty big and not her size or style.

What this all leads up to is our government who purports to keep us safe doesn't, they sell out to the highest bidder, they allow these things, like the ones you mentioned as well as the things I mentioned and the one thing that you didn't mention along with the other bad things is how the govt used us, without our knowledge, as guinea pigs, and if you think they still don't you're just fooling yourself. You might duck and run but I won't run from the truth and you shouldn't either.

SallyO'Sews
July 1st, 2014, 11:41 AM
Can I hear an AMEN?
Amen and Amen. (had to give you 2 amens because the first wasn't long enough.)

Claire OneStitchAtATime
July 1st, 2014, 12:25 PM
I think we can all agree there were environmentally-friendly practices in both generations & practices we know now are environmentally irresponsible in both generations! We still have a lot we could improve upon.

And although the roots of quilting were thrifty, now most of us buy brand new fabric, from cotton that has been grown for the purpose with pesticides, manufactured, dyed & shipped; & then we cut it up into pieces and use expensive thread, an electric sewing machine, and a steam iron to put it back together! I love it, but I can't say it's green. I mentioned in another thread that maybe we should try a recycled quilt challenge -- all fabrics from cast offs & thrift stores. It would be fun!

Leah53
July 1st, 2014, 12:34 PM
But...but....but.....that would force us to cut our own fabric...ugh, how dare you suggest such a thing.

Claire OneStitchAtATime
July 1st, 2014, 01:09 PM
But...but....but.....that would force us to cut our own fabric...ugh, how dare you suggest such a thing.

Laughing out loud. And like Ryan, taking cover!

VickiJ
July 1st, 2014, 04:27 PM
When is the last time anyone has seen a small appliance/TV repair shop? Nowadays if it breaks you throw it away and go buy a new one.

EXACTLY! Stuff was built to last back then. Maybe you replace a minor part here and there, but they didn't just toss the whole thing and buy another.

JCY
July 1st, 2014, 05:42 PM
Oh, this post brought back so many memories! I live in a county where the green thing & recycling is to the point of ridiculous! I suspect the environmentalists' goal is some sort of control. The health food stores have banned plastic & won't even give you a paper bag; you have to bring your own bags, or use their boxes. Believe it or not, the goal is to be totally waste-free. Composting is big here as well. They have bins for recyclables as well as composting at our local hospital cafeteria. IMO, zero waste is not an attainable goal. I get quite weary of the Save-the-Planet outcries. Well, at least as quilters, we are saving our fabric scraps for that special project, so not much goes to waste in our households. JCY