If I were to join any group, I would not be wanting to read or recite something every time there. That would be like reading the forum rules and checking off you agree before every time you log on to the forum. How ridiculous is that. I am a religious person but I respect there are those who are not or who keep it private. If the guild was started without a religous connection, it should remain that way. I have said it before, I am a brat, so I would have left and not gone back. Especially as,you say it was suggested to remove the religous portion and they declined. Sounds to me as if they had a motive maybe to get someone out.