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    Default The joys of the English language!

    I have been perplexed by several words on the forum where the English (UK) is very different from the USA versions. It must be a nighmare for people for whom it is not their first language or native tongue.

    As if that was not enough - how about pronunciation

    If you have a few minutes to spare - try reading this out loud and see how far you get!


    Dearest creature in creation,
    Study English pronunciation.
    I will teach you in my verse
    Sounds like corpse, corps, horse, and worse.
    I will keep you, Suzy, busy,
    Make your head with heat grow dizzy.
    Tear in eye, your dress will tear.
    So shall I! Oh hear my prayer.
    Just compare heart, beard, and heard,
    Dies and diet, lord and word,
    Sword and sward, retain and Britain.
    (Mind the latter, how it’s written.)
    Now I surely will not plague you
    With such words as plaque and ague.
    But be careful how you speak:
    Say break and steak, but bleak and streak;
    Cloven, oven, how and low,
    Script, receipt, show, poem, and toe.
    Hear me say, devoid of trickery,
    Daughter, laughter, and Terpsichore,
    Typhoid, measles, topsails, aisles,
    Exiles, similes, and reviles;
    Scholar, vicar, and cigar,
    Solar, mica, war and far;
    One, anemone, Balmoral,
    Kitchen, lichen, laundry, laurel;
    Gertrude, German, wind and mind,
    Scene, Melpomene, mankind.
    Billet does not rhyme with ballet,
    Bouquet, wallet, mallet, chalet.
    Blood and flood are not like food,
    Nor is mould like should and would.
    Viscous, viscount, load and broad,
    Toward, to forward, to reward.
    And your pronunciation’s OK
    When you correctly say croquet,
    Rounded, wounded, grieve and sieve,
    Friend and fiend, alive and live.
    Ivy, privy, famous; clamour
    And enamour rhyme with hammer.
    River, rival, tomb, bomb, comb,
    Doll and roll and some and home.
    Stranger does not rhyme with anger,
    Neither does devour with clangour.
    Souls but foul, haunt but aunt,
    Font, front, wont, want, grand, and grant,
    Shoes, goes, does. Now first say finger,
    And then singer, ginger, linger,
    Real, zeal, mauve, gauze, gouge and gauge,
    Marriage, foliage, mirage, and age.
    Query does not rhyme with very,
    Nor does fury sound like bury.
    Dost, lost, post and doth, cloth, loth.
    Job, nob, bosom, transom, oath.
    Though the differences seem little,
    We say actual but victual.
    Refer does not rhyme with deafer.
    Fe0ffer does, and zephyr, heifer.
    Mint, pint, senate and sedate;
    Dull, bull, and George ate late.
    Scenic, Arabic, Pacific,
    Science, conscience, scientific.
    Liberty, library, heave and heaven,
    Rachel, ache, moustache, eleven.
    We say hallowed, but allowed,
    People, leopard, towed, but vowed.
    Mark the differences, moreover,
    Between mover, cover, clover;
    Leeches, breeches, wise, precise,
    Chalice, but police and lice;
    Camel, constable, unstable,
    Principle, disciple, label.
    Petal, panel, and canal,
    Wait, surprise, plait, promise, pal.
    Worm and storm, chaise, chaos, chair,
    Senator, spectator, mayor.
    Tour, but our and succour, four.
    Gas, alas, and Arkansas.
    Sea, idea, Korea, area,
    Psalm, Maria, but malaria.
    Youth, south, southern, cleanse and clean.
    Doctrine, turpentine, marine.
    Compare alien with Italian,
    Dandelion and battalion.
    Sally with ally, yea, ye,
    Eye, I, ay, aye, whey, and key.
    Say aver, but ever, fever,
    Neither, leisure, skein, deceiver.
    Heron, granary, canary.
    Crevice and device and aerie.
    Face, but preface, not efface.
    Phlegm, phlegmatic, ass, glass, bass.
    Large, but target, gin, give, verging,
    Ought, out, joust and scour, scourging.
    Ear, but earn and wear and tear
    Do not rhyme with here but ere.
    Seven is right, but so is even,
    Hyphen, roughen, nephew Stephen,
    Monkey, donkey, Turk and jerk,
    Ask, grasp, wasp, and cork and work.
    Pronunciation (think of Psyche!)
    Is a paling stout and spikey?
    Won’t it make you lose your wits,
    Writing groats and saying grits?
    It’s a dark abyss or tunnel:
    Strewn with stones, stowed, solace, gunwale,
    Islington and Isle of Wight,
    Housewife, verdict and indict.
    Finally, which rhymes with enough,
    Though, through, plough, or dough, or cough?
    Hiccough has the sound of cup.
    My advice is to give up!!!

    English Pronunciation by G. Nolst Trenité

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    Default Re: The joys of the English language!

    I'm constantly in awe of the number of people in Europe who speak English. I don't understand how they managed to learn our language. So many exceptions to the rules. Where did they find the time to not only learn their own language but ours as well? Americans, on the whole, really don't need to learn a second language. Over here I really see the need to converse in more than one. I guess the schools over here put a greater emphasis on learning multiple languages.
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    Default Re: The joys of the English language!

    Jane - that is such a hoot!! - and so real. I was born in New Zealand and came here when I was 20. So - after a couple of years (ok a few more than that!) you would think my pronunciation of dance and chance and six would not give me away. But no - every time I open my mouth and those words come out - "ooooo you're a Kiwi are you"! You get used to it. Reminds me of the scene from My Fair Lady when Professor Higgins said that the "French don't care what they say as long as they pronounce it correctly". At least I think that's somehow what he said. Well done for finding such a gem. Cheers Chris

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    Default Re: The joys of the English language!

    That's so interesting....and so true. Even within the USA we have dialects of English that confuse those from other parts of our country!

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    I'm always in awe of those who can speak, let alone write in another language! That's one of those things that I've always wanted to do, but have never gotten around to learning.....and it's getting harder to spell or speak correctly in English. O my.

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    Default Re: The joys of the English language!

    Quote Originally Posted by craftychris View Post
    Jane - that is such a hoot!! - and so real. I was born in New Zealand and came here when I was 20. So - after a couple of years (ok a few more than that!) you would think my pronunciation of dance and chance and six would not give me away. But no - every time I open my mouth and those words come out - "ooooo you're a Kiwi are you"! You get used to it. Reminds me of the scene from My Fair Lady when Professor Higgins said that the "French don't care what they say as long as they pronounce it correctly". At least I think that's somehow what he said. Well done for finding such a gem. Cheers Chris
    Ah, beck pecks and fush & chups! - Aren't Kiwis the ones who mix all their vowels up? !!!!

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    Default Re: The joys of the English language!

    One time, vacationing in Holland, we unknowingly arrived the day before the Queen's birthday celebration. All the stores were closed, having moved their wares to the streets and sidewalks. Most had some speaker system set up and they were announcing all the fantastic items they had for sale. Totally blown away we were - there were many who were switching from Dutch to English, to Spanish, to French, to Portuguese, to Russian, to German, to . . . you name it.

    When I attended school here in the --'s (fill in the blank if you dare) I never had the opportunity to learn a foreign language. So I was amazed that Europeans have such a broad scope of education . . . something we 'Mericans have yet to offer. It's a shame.

    Also, having married a man whose native language is Spanish you would think that I could speak it, too - not to happen. Oh, I know enough to find and order some good food, find a telephone, taxi or bathroom . . . enough to get me in big trouble. I find I can understand more than I would dare to try speaking. Wanted DD to learn Spanish but the grandparents were busy learning English and wouldn't speak Spanish to her . . . she had a babysitter who did and she started learning . . . until she went to pre-K and the kids laughed at her because she spoke a different language. No more Spanish until high school. Now she sees the importance and the girls are learning, as well as learning Latin . . .
    Be warned. I am BORED.
    This could be dangerous.

    When you get cold just go stand in the corner.
    They are usually 90 degrees.

    A giraffe's coffee would be cold by the time it reached the bottom of his throat.
    Ever think about that? No? You only think about yourself??

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    Default Re: The joys of the English language!

    That was great Jane. I remember when my oldest daughter was dating her fiance' His last name was Howe (How) my maiden name was Rowe (also pronounced with the How ending) He told me my name should be pronounced like Row because the e made the o long. I said okay than you would be a HO ......he shut up!
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    Default Re: The joys of the English language!

    I guess this next statement will prove how dumb some mericans can be at least this one from ky.

    I don't get that whole poem thingy and the point it's trying to make.

    Not trying to be a smart alec so could someone dumb it down for me

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    Default Re: The joys of the English language!

    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyMtnLady View Post
    That was great Jane. I remember when my oldest daughter was dating her fiance' His last name was Howe (How) my maiden name was Rowe (also pronounced with the How ending) He told me my name should be pronounced like Row because the e made the o long. I said okay than you would be a HO ......he shut up!
    ROFLMAO!!!!!!! Thanks Donna!
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